DesignCrowd Review: Should you crowdsource your design?
Last year we evaluated 99Designs (and other alternatives), a crowdsourced marketplace that I was a huge advocate of. In short, you pay a fixed price (prize pool) which designers compete for, the designer you select wins the prize pool. When designers compete, we win. Conversely, it provides an opportunity for designers to find work, and designers confident in their ability have an opportunity to score some nice prize pools.
To summarize, some of the pros and cons of 99Designs were:
Pros
- We received dozens of designs for as little as $300, since only the “winner” gets paid, designers are motivated to win.
- I have moderate experience in graphic design – but it could take me hours (spread across days), time I could have spent on other tasks. There isn’t a shadow of a doubt that crowdsourcing your design will save you time and money. I knew exactly what I wanted, so I did this one myself. When dealing with clients, I use to point them to 99Designs because I can’t get inside there head. There’s almost no way I can know exactly what they want – even if they tell me. And I really don’t want to spend hours on revisions when I can focus on other higher ROI tasks.
- Don’t like the submitted designs? There’s a 100% Money Back Guarantee
Cons
- It could be potentially cheaper to just hire an independent contractor, but you won’t get as many designs and may end up unhappy, and may end up spending more in the long run looking for another designer.
- Could take a few days for designs to start rolling in, if you’re in a time crunch look to running a larger contest to motivate more designers to submit a design.
Since 99Designs, another site has risen to prominence offering lower pricing packages – DesignCrowd.
DesignCrowd Review: When Marketplaces Compete, We Win.
On paper, DesignCrowd vs 99Designs as far as how it works, are very similar. Both offer design competitions, both offer 100% money back guarantees. But the thing that makes or break a marketplace, are the sellers. In this case, the designers. It’s the whole chicken and the egg conundrum, you can’t have one without the other. I’ve already mentioned when designers compete, we win. The same rings true for marketplaces, when they compete, we win.
Before we dive into the details of the project I ran on DesignCrowd, let’s take a quick look at a pricing comparison for the most popular service, logos. At one end of the spectrum we have 99Designs, who offer pricing packages as low as $300:
And DesignCrowd offers slightly lower pricing packages:
***See the complete pricing breakdown on the DesignCrowd website HERE***
At $240, DesignCrowd’s cheapest package is the most affordable for cash strapped SMB’s and startups. Remember that the better designers tend to chase after the larger prize pools. But today, we’re going to focus on the cheapest pricing package, as that’s the most popular option for cash strapped businesses I work with.
Crowdsourced Graphic Design: What could I do with $180?
I didn’t need a logo, I actually wanted a full page website background, possibly for LaunchAStartup, or another one of my projects… I haven’t quite decided yet. Nonetheless, the packages for “Graphic Design Contests” were actually cheaper, I selected the cheapest package ($180), which after a transaction fee totaled to $185.4o. Here’s what I asked for:
Our company is LaunchAStartup, and we need simple, clean looking full page background illustration for our new website.
We want something similar to [redacted].
– They use buildings from New York in their illustration to denote where they’re from, we’d like to accomplish the same with an illustration of the Las Vegas Strip. Perhaps even incorporate our Red Rock mountains if you think it works with the illustration (http://www.city-data.com/articles/images/img1761279.jpg)
– We would like a sunset gradient
– Our logo uses a rocket to denote growth (see attached), we would like to see that incorporated into the design (perhaps skyrocketing to the moon?)
– Leave a little room to add some content later, eg. video.
Final Result? I was ecstatic to get this design for $180:
The designer got it right the first try. I tried to squeeze in a few more details by offering feedback, but I ended up liking the original better where I could add my own flair to it. For what it’s worth, this was the feedback I offered to all designers:
Hi all,
I like what I’m seeing so far, I just updated the project to guarantee payment.
I’m probably leaning a little towards [seller name redacted] right now, though I like the Las Vegas Strip elements incorporated by [different seller name redacted], though I would like to see use of popular landmarks (like what you did with Paris).
If you guys need help figuring out which landmarks to use in the illustration, here are a few ideas, they’re listed in the order you would see them driving up the Las Vegas Strip:
Luxor – The pyramid shaped hotel located on the beginning (South) of the Strip.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Luxor_Hotel.jpg
http://www.lasvegastourism.com/Images1/luxor-las-vegas.jpg
Paris – A popular hotel featuring a replica of the Eiffel Tower
http://www.destination360.com/north-america/us/nevada/las-vegas/paris-las-vegas/hotel
Bellagio – The fountains at Bellagio are a popular landmark
https://www.google.com/search?q=bellagio+fountains&num=100&es_sm=119&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=JDm4U9X0BcuHogSjloG4Aw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg
The Quad/Linq Hotel – A popular landmark featuring the world’s highest observation wheel in the back:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0JZq2imxXfA/UAW1JBBcasI/AAAAAAAAAv8/MFT5G4ileO4/s1600/linq-rendering.jpg
Stratosphere – This popular hotel usually denotes the end (North) of the Las Vegas Strip:
http://www.vegas.com/slideshows/hotels/stratosphere/cr_Strato-1a-exterior-night.jpg
DesignCrowd Tips and How to Make the Most of DesignCrowd
- Motivate the Designers – Start a project and let a few designs roll in. If there are a few you like, there’s an option to guarantee payment. I feel like this is a huge motivator to designers knowing that you won’t utilize the money back guarantee, essentially wasting a designers time. Designers are much more apt to listen to your revision requests as well.
- Provide Feedback – More often that not, designers won’t get it 100% perfect the first try. If they’re close, provide them with the feedback they need.
- Invite, Invite, Invite – With tens of thousands of projects running on DesignCrowd, it’s easy for a designer to miss a project they could be interested in. That’s why it’s a good idea to invite dozens of designers to your project… and DesignCrowd’s search and filter tool is phenomenal. You can filter designers by the basics such as type of designer and country, but also feedback score, contests entered, contests won, win %, etc. I felt like it was Fantasy Football and I was sorting through stats to pick designers – loved it. Since my project was only for $180, I strategically invited designs from lower income countries as they’re more apt to play for a lower prize pool.
DesignCrowd vs 99designs?
Honestly, with a feature set so similar it’s a toss up. But like I mentioned earlier, the designers are what make the marketplace. With both offering a 100% money back guarantee, I don’t think you could go wrong with either. And while DesignCrowd has a lower entry price point, more features, and I was happy with my last project, though here a few cons I though of vs 99designs:
- “Never trust a skinny chef” – You ever hear that phrase before? Similarly, I’m not very impressed with the design of DesignCrowd’s website. It could be my personal taste but I feel there current design was popular a good 5+ years ago. I think 99Designs has a much more professional, and modern design… not to mention a much more intuitive platform. And…
- They created the market – 99Designs created the market, everyone else is a mere copy. People don’t ask for a facial tissue, they ask for a Kleenex. Similarly, the term “crowdsourcing” runs nearly synonymous with 99Designs.
- Less Work – I didn’t have to invite designers on 99Designs, they just came. And I receive more designs. Granted, I paid less on DesignCrowd. Had I paid more, perhaps it would have attracted more designers. Something to consider.
I feel DesignCrowd’s biggest competitive advantages is the lower price points on their packages – but it will draw less designers. With the 100% money back guarantee, it’s still a win/win situation. If you don’t like the end result, simply utilize the satisfaction guarantee. Though I haven’t had to do that because chances are if a designer knows he’s about to close and win the “logo competition,” he’ll go the extra mile to seal the deal.
99designs Alternatives: 5 Cheaper Places for Graphic Design
99designs was the first big player in crowdsourcing design, and they’re still a pretty good option to this day. But with great success, comes great competition. This is my complete review of 99designs and I’ll cover 5 potentially cheaper alternatives to 99designs that can help with your design needs:
- Upwork
- Fiverr
- DesignCrowd
- Design Pickle
- Canva
A lot to cover, so let’s get started.
What is 99designs and how does it work?
Before 99designs, logo design was expensive. You’d have to shed a couple hundred bucks for a few logos that you wouldn’t even like. 99designs sought to change that paradigm and since it’s launch in 2008 they’ve grown to be the largest online graphic design marketplace paying out over money to designers awarded via contests. If you’re reading this post you probably know what they’re all about, basically a crowd of graphic designers compete to give you the design you love, or your money back.
Though I consider myself competent with graphic design, I’ve used 99designs numerous times to get a different perspective from dozens of designers, thus saving me time and money. As an entrepreneur, I’m constantly busy with other things so the first time I used 99designs was out of necessity, as I didn’t have enough time to come up with something myself. I recently helped a consulting company and they needed a logo quickly to speed up the process to launch.
Logo Design for Mazzulo
What They Were Looking For: While 99designs does require you to fill out a design brief, their details were still very ambiguous because they honestly had no clue of what we were looking for. The only detail I gave was that Mazzuolo is Italian for “Mallet” thus they perhaps wanted to incorporate a mallet, hammer, or even hammerhead shark.
Final Results:
We received dozens of applicants, and ultimately had to choose between 4-5 very good designs. We gave them feedback on how they could improve the design and each designer promptly submitted another design (remember that designers don’t get paid unless they win). I won’t share the others as I believe the only logo I own is the one we paid for (above). Ultimately, we were happy to choose the best, an award the graphic designer with the prize.
The designer mentioned his inspiration, saying the logo emulates the look of a hammer, but above the “M” resembles a shark fin. My client loved it. And it only cost $300 (the minimum to run a logo design contest). With that we also have the contact information of a talented designer who could be willing to do future logo work for less, and both parties are still protected as 99designs offers “1-to-1 projects.” Want to see more? 99designs features a lot of their recent winners on their website. You can get a live look at real winners from real projects.
Logo Design for VegasRanked
VegasRanked was looking for a logo that was quintessentially Las Vegas, and again, the client loved the results:
What else reminds of the Las Vegas strip than neon lights? Again, the client had the choose from many great designs but settled on the one above.
Now that you know how it works, let’s talk about how to make the most of logo design contests on 99designs, DesignCrowed, et. al.
Get Inspired by the Stories Behind Popular Logos
Let’s take a look at some of the best logos ever created and perhaps you’ll pull an idea for your own logo.
Nike’s “Swoosh” logo was designed by Carolyn Davidson in 1971 for $35 (Adjusted for inflation would equal ~$185 in 2010). It was inspired by the Greek Goddess of Victory as shown below:
The co-founder of Nike, Phil Knight, said “I don’t love it… but I think it will grow on me.” Nike grew exponentially and is now one of the world’s most recognized companies. To express his gratitude, in 1983 he gave Davidson a diamond embedded golden Swoosh ring along with an undisclosed amount of stock (Source).
Notice the arrow between the “E” and the “x” and the half arrow between the “F” and the “e.”
One my favorite companies and logos, Amazon.com handles everything from A-Z. Notice the arrow?
99designs Offers Coupon/Promotions
If you do run a design contest, you’ll have an opportunity to make $50 cashback from 99designs. Once your contest in finished, they’ll send you an email prompting, “Want to get a $50 cashback on your latest design contest? Simply refer your friends to 99designs and if one of them buys within 14 days, you’ll instantly receive a $50 cashback!”
If you’re on a budget, checkout the 99designs Logo Store for ready made logos for $99. Note that other businesses may also purchase the same logo template unless you buy the exclusive agreement (~$200). If you are trying to save money, I’d probably just point you to DesignCrowd or Fiverr though.
99designs Review Summary
Let’s review the Pros and Cons of 99designs:
99designs Pros
- Dozens of designs for as little as $300, designers are motivated to win.
- Believe it or not, it took me well over 12 hours and many different versions to design the LaunchAStartup logo, 99designs will save you time and money. I’ve had success with every contest I’ve run, but if you’re unhappy remember that there is a…
- 100% Money Back Guarantee
99designs Cons
- It could be potentially cheaper to just hire an independent contractor, but you won’t get as many designs and may end up unhappy.
- Could take a few days for designs to start rolling in, if you’re in a time crunch look to running a larger contest to motivate more designers to submit a design.
What about 99designs Alternatives?
With great success, comes great competition and now we’ll illuminate 5 cheaper alternatives to 99designs.
The marketing world at this age is increasingly visual. By that we mean, no matter how excellent or good your content or product is, it will not get spark interest if it does not have striking aesthetics or visuals to accompany it.
Fortunately, there’s been an increase in affordable, low-cost graphic design services available today. So, whether you need a brochure, business sign design, logo, website layout, infographic, or something remarkable, you can find a lot of platforms online.
For a little help, we have compiled five best places to fulfill your graphic design needs on a shoestring budget. Read on!
Fiverr
If you’re on a budget, this will be your #1 99designs alternative. If you have not heard of this platform, then, believe it or not, you’re missing out on a great platform for finding affordable graphic design services. Let’s start with our posts on the some of my favorite gigs on Fiverr, as well as my in-depth Fiverr review, where I cover the many pitfalls that may run into.
It’s the most user friendly, it’s setup like the Amazon for business services. In fact, plenty of services in Fiverr only cost five dollars, particularly jobs like simple banner ads, business cards, and logos.
Heck, for as cheap as they are. You can spend $20-$50 on a few designs and hold a mini crowdsourced vote on social media to see which one people think is the best logo.
For projects more demanding and time-intensive, of course, you will need to pay more than $5. A lot of sellers offer different options and add-ons. So, you save cash by paying only for the service that you need.
Even the costly graphic designers in this platform can be, for the most part, affordable because Fiverr associates with global talent. Typically, you can look for a professional quality book cover, banner, brochure, logo, or even 3D custom metal business signs. Just keep in mind they don’t have a money-back guarantee.
Unlike Upwork, Fiverr has a product focus, where the services are, for the most part, offered with consideration on the price and the product. Because of this, a lot of freelancers work under screen names, and you are typically not sure of the real identity of the freelancer you hired.
Upwork
Upwork, formerly known as Elance/oDesk, is one of the biggest platforms of freelancers promoting their services. And as you can expect, there is a sea of low-cost graphic design services here. But if all you need is a logo, I’d probably point you elsewhere. But if you’ll eventually need a high quality web design, or maybe content marketing help – Upwork is a solid option for that. Upwork is where I’ve spent the most money, but it also has the most pitfalls. I’ve covered this in my in-depth review of Upwork.
Using this platform is plain and simple. Well, first, you make a public job, assign the budget, and await for freelancers to send applications for the job. Or, on the other hand, you can make a private job and summon only your chosen or preferred freelancers to apply. But, either way, you will surely have plenty of candidates to choose from.
This platform has a freelancer-based focus. Thus, real names are, like it or not, used and Upwork might require you an identity document verification. Freelancers post their work portfolio and undergo a couple of tests to prove their knowledge and skill. Moreover, the reviews on this platform tend to be more well-founded and valid. This is especially true if the cost of the project is higher, it would be expensive for freelancers to get colleagues to compose fake, unreliable reviews. However, that does not guarantee that there will be no lower-quality freelancers. You might need to sort through them. Nevertheless, this platform has a job success score that rate freelancers based on previous, former work.
DesignCrowd
Like 99designs, DesignCrowd is a crowdsourced marketplace that links creatives with companies in need of great design. It’s the closest 1:1 match with 99designs and it’s your best alternative at a cheaper price. Businesses can crowdsource or outsource projects to plenty of designers all over the world. Once you find the design that goes well with your vision, you can buy it and get the entire artwork with industry standard files and a copyright transfer. How does it compare? Checkout our comparison of crowdsource marketplaces in our post on DesignCrowd vs 99designs vs Crowdspring.
DesignCrowd is one of my favorites as it’s a little cheaper than 99designs. And like 99designs, it has a money-back guarantee. So it’s a win/win. I ran a contest for website design background I needed and I loved the result…
Overall, I’ve had tremendous success on both DesignCrowd and 99designs. And I’ve only had to utilize the money back guarantee once (on 99designs). And it wasn’t an issue at all, their customer support was great.
Design Pickle
Unlike 99designs, this marketplace offers a revolutionary flat-rate approach to low-cost graphic design. So, rather than spending on a per-project basis, Design Pickle offers a plethora of unlimited graphic design services for flat-monthly-fee. Such flat rate basis is created or developed for the non-creative small companies.
After you sign up for the service, you are then paired with a graphic designer who’ll be mainly responsible and liable for your designs. Design Pickle has pre-selected a team of freelance graphic designers who are, for the most part, prepared for high-volume work. If that graphic designer is unavailable, another designer will fill in, checking on-call design services. While not cheaper if you’re just looking for a logo, they’re a great alternative to 99designs if you need a lot of graphic design at a flat monthly rate.
Canva
This platform is a famous design tool that is entirely free and, more often than not, easy and simple to maneuver without requiring any design experience. Canva is famous among small business owners, content marketers, and bloggers, offering templates.
This site is designed or engineered for play, school, and work. Plus, it provides helpful design tips for non-designers. Canva’s interface is easy and intuitive for anyone to use. So, whether it is making presentations, marketing materials, or magazine covers, you can make excellent graphics with the layouts provided in Canva. Furthermore, this site offers a premium service called Canva At Work, allowing you to work with other people. A solid 99designs alternative for the DIYers.
Takeaway
There you have it, 5 great alternatives to 99designs. Although some platforms are great for certain design work, it’s entirely about how you utilize the site. If you are looking for affordable graphic design services, the list above can help you out. Be sure to be specific in your work description, opt for long-term relationships, and, if possible, pay bonuses for excellent work.
DesignCrowd vs 99designs vs CrowdSpring
If nothing else, both the 99designs and DesignCrowd review linked above are good pre-requisites to this review comparison.
Today, we’ll be covering the most popular crowdsourcing platforms, 99Designs, CrowdSpring and DesignCrowd. And if you’re new to this blog, or new to crowdsourcing, the basic premise is that you post a contest with prize money, say for a logo you need for your new business, and a bunch of designers compete for that prize. And usually, only the winner walks away with the prize.
It’s a win-win for both parties, a business gets to choose among dozens of logos, and talented designers get paid for their work. The only losers are actually the designers who don’t win, which is one of the biggest gripes from freelancers because they don’t like to put in a lot of work and not get paid. And I agree with that, but only if you’re finishing in the top 5. If buyers aren’t following up with you, critiquing your design, etc. chances are your skill level is just not there.
Like our other posts, we’ll be covering both sides of the table, because I think it’s important for both buyers and designers to understand what the other party is thinking. Really quick, let’s start with the designers:
Which is the best platform for designers: 99designs, CrowdSpring, our DesignCrowd?
Really, there’s no reason you shouldn’t be on all of them scouting for the best projects. It’s like someone hunting for traditional employment, but only utilizing one job board. It just doesn’t make sense, and you could be missing a lot of opportunities. Sure there are minor monetary differences, DesignCrowd allows buyers to offer 2nd/3rd place prizes, and even paying designers just to compete. But at the end of the day, you should really be on all platforms if you want to maximize revenue. With that being said, I do have a bit of experience as a designer, but I’m running a marketing agency, and when I have helped clients setup crowdsourced projects, overall I tend to see better designers on 99designs. And it makes sense, 99designs created the market and they’re still the biggest player in the space.
99designs vs CrowdSpring vs DesignCrowd – Which site should you crowdsource to?
Let’s start with this, and I’ve often repeated this on the blog. Designers make the marketplace, not the other way around. Classic chicken and the egg problem for marketplaces, and you can’t have one side without the other. Each have a very similar feature set, and I’ll get into that, but the most important thing to realize is that the designers make the marketplace (and I’ll show you how to find the best ones below).
100% Money Back Guarantee
All sites offer a 100% money back guarantee, which means you have little risk as a buyer. Unlike conventional freelance marketplaces like UpWork, posting isn’t free. You’re paying for your project upfront, and DesignCrowd actually has a feature where you can guarantee payment. Which is good for freelancers, knowing that they’re not working gratis. With DesignCrowd, once I see designs roll through that I’m happy with, which means I know I’m going to buy, I do turn on the option for guaranteeing payment. And in my experience, designers are more apt to listen to your revision requests when they know there’s a good chance they could win the prize money.
Let’s take a look at pricing, and since logos are the most popular type of design contest that’s what we’ll peek into:
DesignsCrowds Logo Pricing:
99designs Logo Pricing:
CrowdSpring Logo Pricing:
On paper, CrowdSpring is the cheapest (for logos at least). DesignCrowd is 2nd, and 99designs is the most expensive to start a contest. BUT it’s important to note what the freelancer takes home in each situation. The cheapest package, $199 from CrowdSpring, only awards 50% to the designer, which is only $100. And remember it’s not guaranteed, you’re competing against a limit of 5 other designers, and 25 total designs. The bigger packages allow the designer to win a bigger cut. From my research, 99designs and CrowdSpring payout about the same percentage. Technically, they’re not taking a commission as they’re charging the buyers upfront for posting the project. On DesignCrowd, they only take 15%, but also have posting and transaction fees.
Final Thoughts, and who you want to crowdsource your project depends on…
With DesignCrowd, I was extremely happy with my design, especially considering I only paid $180 for what I think is a lot more difficult than a logo. Only a few participated, and I had too invite a lot of freelancers just to get participants. Granted, my price was only $180 (I needed a background illustration, not a logo).
Bottom Line: If you’re on a strict budget, and the $60 difference between DesignCrowd and 99Designs is significant enough, I’d give DesignCrowd a try. But you’ll have to put in a bit more time, invite a lot of freelancers whose work you like, etc. Here was the design I got, it was a background illustration for a website which I loved, to understand the context read the review linked above if you haven’t done so already.
99designs is still the biggest player in the space though, and now they’re expanding to video and animation. I’ve found it’s the the easiest to setup and I know from multiple campaigns that there will be a broad selection of good designers who submit good designs. You don’t need to invite them, they come to you. Granted, the project is easier and I paid more money. 99designs created the market, and they remain the biggest player – and I think for good reason. Facebook wasn’t the first social network, YouTube wasn’t the first place to host videos, and so on, so for a team to execute like 99designs does – as a business owner I’m very impressed.
Bottom Line: I would probably default to DesignCrowd, because they’re cheaper and still offer a 100% money back guarantee. But if there’s a category that DesignCrowd doesn’t have (like video and animation), 99designs is certainly a good option.
With CrowdSpring, I just didn’t see too much differentiators. To me, it’s just a copycat of 99designs. At least DesignCrowd had a host of other options you could choose from that differentiates themselves from 99designs. But remember, designers make the marketplace. And I’m sure there’s a host of talent on there as well.
At the end of the day, I don’t think you can go wrong with either option. Designers make the marketplace. All options offer a 100% money back guarantee, so if you weren’t happy with 99designs you could move on to CrowdSpring or DesignCrowd.
What do you guys think? Both buyers and designers, which is your favorite crowdsourcing marketplace – 99designs, DesignCrowd or CrowdSpring?
This was written last year. After using both platforms a little more, I do favor 99Designs now. You’re absolutely right, the price difference is not much in the long run.
I used Designcrowd, and I must say their interface and workflow are very outdated. They do not allow us to quickly share image files with the designers in the messaging system. You have to leave the messaging, go the design brief, post in the design brief, save, then go back to messaging and ask the designer to look at the design brief again.
Ridiculously poor UX design, for a design community website.
I just finished a logo design project at 99designs. Really impressed with the results. Nonetheless, I had the exact same problem as this commenter regarding sharing feedback containing image files. I couldn’t figure out how to share a comment containing an image without going back and modifying the design brief.
I am still studying to reskill myself thought I would get back into the workforce and try this new thing called crowdfunding and joined up with designcrowd. Biggest mistake I ever made in business. Dreadful website it is not work friendly and difficult to try and make a living on here when response is non existent from them and you wait and wait to know if you won a so called contest it never comes. Even to get experience I feel there are better such sites out there for gaining work. Its terrible that this company treats the designers and their customers bad yet is still making money. How do they sleep at night. I am very disappointed and feel for the younger designers trying to break into this industry.. I think they need to improve the website usability, give the designers a better way of talking one on one with the potential client and stopping the length of time for competitions to a more fair and resonable time frame.
i’m and Artist I joined up Designcrowd their website is difficult to use it’s not user friendly, you can’t talk to the client directly. and the length of time for the competitions extend and it’s not reasonable to waist your time.
Really it’s a good post for designer. Now i have best experience. Thanks for sharing.
I hate this site with a passion, only online service I been ripped off twice.
WIth over literally 40 paid servers online, Design Crowd is the only one I had to do a charge back.
Definitely, we should crowdsource our graphic design projects. But since the internet is crammed full with hundreds of crowdsourcing sites that pop up almost every day, how would you take the best pick? It’s simple, look for the ones that nurture real communities of graphic designers and successes under their belt. Once you mull over these aspects, you’ll get a handful of alternatives including Designhill.
I needed a sports logo in a hurry for our online retail website. We needed the logo that will give a new value to my organization. Thankfully, Designhil helped me solve this purpose.
I’ve used Logoguru and have had success, but I find their 20% cut to be too high. It doesn’t stop there. There are additional fees to keep the contest private, to run the contest longer etc…when all is said and done you could end up paying them 40% extra in fees. They have made their site like Fort Knox. It’s so hard to invite designers to contest! The site isn’t intuitive not too user friendly. But I have found that the same designers stay around for a long time. That’s a plus.
Tried Freelancer. It was not as expensive as Logo Guru. The designers are hit and miss. Lots bad designers, a few good one but man oh man you have to look. I found a really good illustrator there. My problem is with the company. They have too much access to one’s banking accounting. Billing for fees without warning. These unannounced fees come out of your account. When they make a mistake good luck trying to get some help……Trying to remove your card on file isn’t easy, customer service was once good but then went to hell in a hand basket. There are awful with customer service now. They charge fees for everything. I had an unfortunate incident of plagiarism in a logo design contest that I am now dealing with.
I am looking for something new.
Too bad that Design Crowd doesnt pay their designers when they win a project. I have been waiting for a month and emailing constantly to be told they are short-staffed. I smell a scam! They are paid by clients right away and then keep the money. Client gets design, they get money, designer gets screwed! Shame on them. Please share so that other designers wont get ripped off!
Wow! How horrible! I was just about to make a purchase on Design Crowd and decided to look up reviews first. I am so glad I read these. I would be so upset to learn that the person who actually designed my logo didn’t get paid! Disgraceful! I will take a look at 99designs.
Thanks for sharing.
Yes.. true….
designers never get any support from Designcrowd people….
email system never reply… i got winner .. and i finished the whole website with wordpress coding… client get full package… but designer took 1 month .. still now i didn’t get payment…. They said time tons of projects going on.. having difficulty to do your payment release….
OMG… single project – they earned $450 through my hard-work…
Thanks ‘Staci F’ for the info.
Designcrowd is terrible. Not only they do not end contests – that they have been paid and guaranteed, but there is something more serious than that. Their system has a flaw and when a designer does not win a contest and decides to withdraw and hide his design, the design appears all over google. That means that any designer basically “burns” his designs by participating there. Even when contest holders pay for “blind results” their designs appear in google!
Do not become a designer there…
Greedy management! Design Crowd doesn’t pay their designers when they win a project. I have been waiting for last three weeks and emailing them constantly and just getting one message ” This has been forwarded to Accounts” They are trying best to keep my amount. They get paid by clients right away and then keep the money with this excuse ” We are still in the process of performing Quality Assurance checks on your design”. Everyone knows that quality of vector logo shouldn’t take weeks even days even hours to check. When client is happy who are you guys to put your ass in when you’ve already got your 15% commission + Employer fee. Even when client approve the payment after checking the files Designcrowd find ways to scam their designers. Their excuses are always ready. Client gets design, they get money, designer gets screwed! Shame on them. Please be careful while spending your precious time on this site.
I used both Design Crowd and 99 Designs, my experience with Design Crowds was awful. They are not cheap, and the designs were slow to come in and they were nowhere near the standard of 99 designs. Design Crowd customer service is basically non existant. I asked for design and coding of a newsletter. I got a reasonable design but the extra $150 I paid to have coded was waste of money because there were constant errors in the coding. I asked for my money back on the coding but they refused. Never again will I use Designcrowd.
I’m a designer who discovered DesignCrowd yesterday and it took me about 8 hours to realize something was very wrong with it. Their “Quality Control” rejected designs that were exactly what the prospective buyer asked for. The explanations from support were nonsense. Then the 2 designs they did accept were marked “withdrawn” in red. Support informed me that my account had been blocked. I don’t even care why, I’d already deactivated it. Complete waste of time.
Please do not use design crowd. They are all well and good until you realise the way they treat the designers that are working hard trying to make some kind of money knowing that with however many designers competing against them for the same prize they are unlikely to get it. I submitted a design for one project that, admittedly, was not my best piece of work, but it was not awful. I had stuck to the brief that the customer had given and provided them with a design that had still taken me quite some time to produce.
Well, the designcrowd staff decided to reject it from the site before even letting the customer see it. There was no explanation as to why, so I contacted their customer service to politely ask why, expecting to get a polite response from someone who may have had at least a single hours worth of training on how is appropriate to behave when you work in customer service and how isn’t! Sadly I was wrong, as the email I got back was a rambling torrent of overkill from a service consultant called Carmela about how shit they thought my design was, and continuing on to how in their view (and I quote) it “lacks Elements of Design, such as Form, Space, Value, Line, Shape, etc. [Your] design also lacks Principles of Design, such as Contrast, Emphasis, Balance, Proportion, Harmony, and Rhythm” which (and I do not say this at all to support my work, I purely want to point out their inappropriate behaviour) was simply not true. The customer had provided a logo which I had texture slightly and then centred in the image. They had also provided a title, but no request as to how it was done, so I added that myself and worked it around the extents of the logo, then finally placed it all on a textured cloudy background. The client asked for a minimal clean design. I stuck to the brief.
Appalled and insulted by their reply I wrote back to them to inform them as such. I informed them that I believed it was inappropriate for them to delete designers’ hard work before showing it to customers just because they don’t like the look of it. I then apologised in case my reply had come off rude, but reminded them I was actually quite insulted by how they had responded before. I therefore told them that I wanted no more to do with them and could they terminate my account as I don’t want to work in this way, I have far to much other stuff going on to be part of that.
The reply I got back again was from Carmela, which I didn’t anticipate as I thought considering my email was a complaint about her behaviour, another member of staff would have handled it. Carmela very rudely replied once again that if I “can’t handle any criticism then I should look elsewhere! Thank you!”
Frankly, appalled is the only way I can describe how I’m feeling. This was not a hugely important matter. All designcrowd had to do was either not eliminate my design, or provide me with a decent reason as soon as they did, about why they did, without me having to chase them up to get one. And all this Carmela woman had to do was follow very basic customer service training.
Neither of those things happened.
Designcrowd have a total disregard for the designer, I won a competition and didn’t get paid until I insisted. Completions end and no design is selected as a winner, I can only assume that the design concepts are used to create rip offs so the designers don’t get paid. Avoid, I am moving to 99Designs.
Just wanted to let you know, that we are extremely dissatisfied with using DesignCrowd service.
Despite the money back guarantee, they kept the money, even trough the proposed designs – all coming from same source – were NOT satisfactory.
The recieved work is a rip off, has issues with copyright infringements.
We paid extra for html code, and recieved a bag of garbage.
Would recommend people to AVOID this scam!
They ripp off both sides – people who pay to organize a contest and designers who suppose to be paid. I won one contest – reward suppose to be around 90$ and I got paid around 80$ or less. Probably person who commissione to organize the contest had to pay at least 240$ – it means they charge over 60%. And the quality of many designs is very poor, I would recommend more 99 design for sure.
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Designcrowd is extremely horrible. They charge over 54%- 60% of the contest prize to keep for themselves. Out of a contest that was $500 the designers will only get $136.
99designs treats its designers more fairly (the cut is still large, but at least not over 30%), and are less greedy than designcrowd.
For what it’s worth, I’ve just finished a project on DesignCrowd and I’ve been very happy. I got a fantastic logo and a snappy business card design for not much money. There was a problem with the business card design’s font, and the folks at DesignCrown went out of their way to make sure I was happy in the end. I’d recommend giving them a try! …I don’t have any experience with 99Designs.
Just a hint–I felt that waiting 10 days to get all my logo bids in was kind of long. I think many designers don’t bother submitting an idea until the end of the bidding period. If I did it again, I’d shorten the project time down to 5 days.
The spec work that is encouraged in these crowdfunding sites is absolutely detrimental to Graphic Design as a whole. The clients do not receive the attention, expertise, and support that hiring a proper designer would provide, and many designers put in hours upon hours of work with no appropriate compensation. These sites do nothing but create a digital sweatshop, even the article commented on attracting lower income countries with low prices. The next time you want a design, put a little time and effort finding the right one and compensate them what they deserve. Otherwise you’re contributing to a shallow and greedy pool of conmen.
Most designers are amateur. Also, be aware that unless you pay for extra privacy settings, all the candidates’ designs of your work, including any personal information in the text, will be forever public and searchable by google. Very bad for your business and SEO.